I Love Lisa

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Sari. This is Shaun

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and the Simpson Siblings are

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we? And we are the Simpson Siblings. Exactly.

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And we love Simpsons.

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You know that by now, though? Yes, you

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do. Hopefully someone, someone is going to have this be their first episode.

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If you're new here. Welcome. Except

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from something. No. Oh, uh, yeah. So to happy Valentine's day, or really happy two days after president's day, which is this also a presence day episode. So maybe we did this on purpose. Yes, yes, yes. Of course we did. This is of course I love Lee. Season four episode 15 originally aired February 11th, 1993, directed by Wes Archer written by Frank Moolah guest star, Michael Carrington as sideshow Rahim. He has two

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words. Ooh. And then we open up with the chalkboard scene with Bart writing. I will not call the principal spreading. I

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was kind of curious about that.

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Is that like a bad insult or?

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I don't know. And I was trying to like connect Mr. Skinner to potatoes,

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maybe think of like football head.

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Yeah. Football head.

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And then the couch gag. We have one of our favorites or at least one of mine, the whole musical bit. It's like the circus that opens up and it keeps going and going. Sing that melody, you just know it so well,

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cool for the longest time, that was the longest couch gag, but now they've, they've whacked that out of the park pretty thoroughly. Um, but that, the other thing I wrote down was that there was a full intro. On top of the circus intro. Like sometimes they'll cut out part of the intro to save time, but they had the full intro and the circus intro, the real show. Doesn't start til a minute 30 in. I

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wonder if they decide. Cause you know, a lot of them are repeated if they're like, okay, how much time do we have left? What can we like? They fit the intro to what's left. That's

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exactly. That's how it usually works. They probably went really. Under time with this episode. And we're just like throwing everything at it, which

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makes me think some of the newer episodes have those like three minute long count for time

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properly. I don't know. I know sometimes they do have like guest artists and stuff. So in that case they probably meld it more to that. I'd be curious what the differences in their practices, comparatively. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, the monster mash thing is so stupid and I love it every time. I never get tired of it. You put in the rock song and yet

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that comes back at the end too. Oh yeah. I love

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the book ends with that. And I definitely think of this episode every time that comes on the radio on Halloween, even though it's nowhere close to Valentine's day. Me too. So we start out with Bart, listening to the radio and making those fake Valentine's day hearts, which I always wonder did he have. The forethought to use, um, food dye or is he just painting them? It's registered Sharpie. It's probably is it's barge, but he is very professional with it. One of those fine point Sharpies. Oh yeah. That'll work. That's fine.

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I like, some of them are kiss off, eat my shorts. Prize pig and love sucks.

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Yeah. Which apprise pig makes me think of babe, me too, which I wonder did that come out the same year?

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You can just be like, Hey babe, I got some candy for you.

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Oh my God, that'd be terrible. Uh, we, we switched to a, one of my favorite Homer's head moments. I absolutely love this scene where Marge gives him the bacon shaped. Like I love you. And he's like trying to figure out which holiday it is

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forgotten. It's a bacon day.

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And the week we get like a second by second play of what's happening. Like we're not just, we're not just being shown Homer's head and seeing like, like sometimes when we get a Homer's head moment, it's almost like time stops for a bit while he kind of talks to himself. But you're actually seeing like, Marge's reaction. Like, she's wondering why he's just sitting there staring, she's getting worried. I'll And the fact that he will who's to like, she should've known that he was guessing and just happened to get it right.

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And then I just love the interaction with Bart park. Martin has a pickup on it, but Bart picks up right away that he did forget he had a lucky guest and he just goes, why don't you give mom a present now?

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It's something that I don't really think about a lot is there's several parts through the series where you hear these footsteps in the back. Like in this gag where homework kind of watt, he's like, I'm going to go upstairs and get it. And you're like, there's a, there's several, it doesn't happen consistently, but there's at least a couple episodes where you get that sort of in another room, footstep kind of gag. Like I'm thinking of like when Leonard Nimoy leaves. And the middle of the X-Files episode where you sort of just hear like, oh, I'll just get something from my car,

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the car door. And they saying, yeah,

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of course at the end of this gag, we see homework kind of like fall off the roof,

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which is perfect. Cause it's beautiful. It's a flawless plan because where could he go if he's on the second floor, but I think she's got it figured out, but no.

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So, uh, he ends up going to the quickie Mart and a poo offers him this box of chocolate that looks like it has years of dust on it.

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He would be better off just not buying it.

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Yeah. I mean, mark poor mark is going to get food poisoning or something from this thing. And, um, the whole. Like he charges him a hundred dollars for it and he's like, you're going to be screwed if he figures out about the discount store, like down the street, and this is 5 cents off expired baby food. That's a pretty

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good deal though.

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I mean, how much did baby food cost in the 19? I don't

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know I was a baby off expired, baby food.

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Yeah. That's the thing. Yeah. So we've got the school. And we've got Ms. Hoover giving them the useless

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busywork. I love that line, Lisa, isn't this just thesis busy work. And she goes bingo for bullseye and touches her nose. Like she's not even going to giant,

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no shame in this episode. There's like several parts of it where it's like, you don't really think of this as a Ms. Hoover episode. I mean, there really is no Ms. Hoover episode, but she gets a lot of

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moments in this one, which I was going to say, we see a lot of. Mrs. Crandall's classroom a lot, but Ms. Hoover, I kinda liked the dynamic of her classroom and her voice style better, but we don't see as much for, like, we see Mrs. Crabapple as like some of the B plot episodes and stuff, but we don't really see Hoover as like a central point to anything.

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She's a. He really is the other one, which is just absolutely it's equal parts. Hilarious and terrible is when Ralph keeps getting into things where he's like, Hey, I can't use the scissors and these can't cut through butter. And, and he ends up, you know, getting the cran in his mouth and, and Ms. Hoover says, they're right to laugh at you, Ralph. And after

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she says this, like rough we're used to Ralph saying a lot of stupid things being like ignorant of the world and everything, but he, he seems genuinely sad after that point. Like his tone changes, he just he's trying and he feels defeated. Like they did a good job of setting up those fields beforehand, like

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to show the authority figure as. To show the authority figure saying that kind of thing. It's just like, you don't have anyone on your side and it kind of gives you a bit of understanding why he acts the way he does when someone finally does show him just a little bit of care. Yeah. Oh, we cut to, we cut to Skinner, finding out about the, the fake candy hearts that Bart's been giving up. And we have this really bloody Vietnam scene. I noticed Johnny has the same voice as the squeaky teen. Yeah. Um, And then he kind of like, has a breakdown over the announcement thing.

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It does feel out of place a little

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bit does. And I actually read online that that's like, they got letters about that scene, that some people didn't like it. So I know, like I watched this one with. With my daughter. And I told her not to look just during that one scene. Cause I knew it was coming. It, it does seem a bit out of place. I don't know how I

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feel about it. And then afterwards, when he's screaming and chatty on the PA system and apart, so those cool, I broke his brain, like, like nonchalant, like, oh, I gave him emotional trauma and

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yeah, that's kinda

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messed up. Whereas the meme is these days emotional damage. I haven't heard that one. I'm not hip. It'll be gone in a week. Okay. Meanwhile,

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man, while poor Ralph, he seems to get into like one mishap after another. Um, and of course, when they finally give out the violin, huh? Ralph doesn't get any, and Lisa feels bad. And this is like the crux of the episode is Lisa making this decision to give him a Valentine. And I definitely had this a couple of times as a kid where I would feel bad for someone and I would kind of like stick up for them or try to talk to them. And then they ended up developing a crush on me. Like that happened multiple different times with different people throughout school. So I always related with this episode a lot.

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Did they shoot you, choose

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you? Yeah, I guess they did, but I didn't really choose them back. I kind of wanted to just be friends, but it really kind of shows too that like, I don't know. I kind of was thinking about this episode sort of. Sociological philosophical sense. And it really kind of is about Ralph's journey as a character because he starts out being really dependent on Lisa's love for him. Quote, unquote love because that's the first real sort of affection. He, any sort of amount of affection he gets from any amount of his peers, but he slowly builds up through the episodes. Mostly at the end that he learns that he doesn't need that in order to stick up for himself and be himself. But that also wouldn't have happened if Lisa didn't start that process. And I may be thinking way too far into this.

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Well, it's something that as we see Ralph over the years, we know he's got some issues with like interpersonal relationships and everything. And I just think that there's a lot there to look into. It's not just this, so that just all the episodes to have them, because there's a lot to unpack with Ralph.

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Maybe we should have, can be your next character.

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Oh, that'd

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be fun. We'd have to pick like some specific, because he's in so many episodes, we'd have to pick like a couple core episodes, you know,

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but I'd like that

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that'd be fun. This is already like one of the main core episodes I'd say of his development. Wow. It's just a clip show.

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Podcasting is easy kids,

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sorry, food show. What was the star Trek episode? That was a clip show. And it was like a season finale and like Rikers in a coma.

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It was the last episode of season two.

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God, that was. Yeah, like they made it, they made star Trek into a clip show. That was

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Palasky's last episode

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Laskey. I never liked her. Palasky get it here. Okay. Once again, we're transitioning for dining runs. Okay. Um, where did I leave

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off talking about Ralph, getting everything?

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Um, do you want to share the card that you got?

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Okay. So I do have to say that my girlfriend did get me shipped from overseas, from an Etsy shop, the exact card that says, I choose you, choose you. And I got it for Valentine's day and I have to say it is the best part I'd ever received.

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it's adorable.

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So thank you.

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So, yeah. Um, we, we kind of go from that scene to the beef hearts.

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This was really weird for me as a kid. I remember as a kid watching this first with the truck arriving and he says, where do you want the hearts? And just put them on the floor. It's

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not even the fact that it's beef hearts. It's the fact that they're just, and the guy even says the floor doesn't look very clean.

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Yeah. With lunch lady, Doris has tells him to do it and he opens the door and there's kind of like the rubber rubbing against rubber sound. And you can just tell that that, like, just for the sound, I was pitching them as old cold rubbery hearts, like not even fresh. And that's just disgusting

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the fact that it kind of stays there for a second before they fall out. But the fact that they're all packed in there like that, and they're all. Rubbery and gross. And are they, they don't even show how the kids are eating them if they're prepared. Cause I know Bart has the prank where it with the heart coming out, but they don't show how the kids are actually eating them. Like, are they being prepared in a dish and Bart just happened to sneak one of them away before they cooked it? Or are they just like plopping them on their plates

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that too, because it pops out of his chest and all the kids act surprised. Like they haven't seen it.

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So I'm guessing she's preparing them

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right. That's that was my thought that she's blending them or dicing them because when the kids in lunchroom see it, it's a shock.

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So at least she's got the decency to prepare it. Somehow. She's such a

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decent,

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I'm still picturing that terrifying image of her with the, with the line. Um, blenders in nightmare cafeteria, and she's just a

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grade D

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cook. What's some great F meat and some milk was vitamin. Was it great F me

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or was it

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great? D I thought it was great. F I can't remember.

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I remember.

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Yeah, but the milk, the milk vitamin art. Uh, so, uh, Ralph offers to walk Lisa home and we just get all of the great Ralph line's like within three minutes, we get, and there's a picture of a train. We get the nosebleeds line and we get the you like stuff, which is something that I repeatedly quoted as a kid. Oh, we still say that all the time. So. Oh, it's just so painfully awkward, but adorable at the same time. And you can tell, he's trying to make a connection to her, like saying the whole line with the nose bleeds. Like he's heard adults having conversations about their issues and he wants to emulate that.

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See, this is where I kind of identify with Ralph. Cause it's hard talking to new people. Oh yeah,

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yeah. Same here. So I feel bad for them. Yeah. Uh, we got the itchy and scratchy segments. This is one of the few that actually gets a laugh out of me because I don't usually find these very funny. Um, but I do love when he looks at the newspaper and it says that you need a heart to live

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well. It's breaking news.

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And the fact that complete delayed reaction to anything physical, happening to him with his heart out of it.

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No, I'd have to ask you if it doesn't make you laugh very often. Did you sell your soul?

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I mean, that is what Bart did when he didn't laugh at

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it. Just watch that one again yesterday.

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Oh, that's one of the best. So we have a Christy announcing his 29th anniversary smash. This is such an arbitrary number.

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I know that that bothered me as a kid to just wait another year, knowing crusty, he's going to have another special on the 30th and it's just going to make him even more

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money. That's what it is. It's a money grab. Well, it's also, what's the episode number for the. Simpson spectacular. It's like, it's like some arbitrary number two. It's like 287th episode spectaculars. I'm thinking. Yeah. So they, they seem to like to do that. Uh, Lisa talks to Marge about Ralph and Homer gives absolutely terrible advice. Um, he kind of lists off some excuses she can give, including I'm married to the sea. She's like. And I'm not gay, but I'll learn, which would be so sad to hear from. So

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I'm like

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exactly. Oh my God. Ah, it's hard because you feel bad for both of them in this situation. There's no right exit for this because you know, you feel bad for Ralph having two. Trek through life like this, not to make another star Trek reference. Um, he's life kind of sucks and you feel bad for him, but at the same time, Lisa's. Really being bothered by him and putting, being put in this weird situation that she can't really get out of, but she

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wants to still be nice to him too. She let him down easy, but he, yeah, he makes

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that difficult. Yeah. So it's kind of just these, this battle that's happening. Um, so she goes and she very maturely tells him that she's not interested. Like she does a really nice job and he seems to take it well. And then he goes home to chief wig and this whole scene cause wigwam is there, he's cracking a bowl of nuts with the handle of his

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gun, with the barrel of a gun pointing at him.

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Yes. And he kind of makes a comparison about like being consistent and like. He says I'm never underestimate the appeal of a man in a uniform. And then just like his whole belly, just like,

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yeah. He's with just him with his belly on the table, a hole in the table. And it's just a mess. Cause he's shot one of the nuts. Yeah. Cause he's persistent and never loses his cool. Oh God.

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And then he says like, let this be an example to the rest of you. Oh, geez. So then we cut to Barton, Lisa watching crusty again, and Crusty's looking back on all the, all the years he's been on TV and he talks about how all these reviewers said he wouldn't make it. And he says, you know where those, our viewers are in. Oh dead. And it's like, did, did they die naturally? Did something did crusty crusty got to them? Yeah. Cause he like kicks down on the Florida. How's it down there guys. Huh? Is very dark turn. All of a sudden.

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Is this also the scene where we have Homer randomly saying, I don't know. I find it through a perfectly good.

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Oh, yeah. Cause Lisa's talking about you too, to get into that. You'd have to be part of the cultural elite and then it immediately cuts to homework. Yes. What does he say exactly? Oh,

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it was just like, why don't we get wifi? I just threw away a perfectly good toothbrush and then he it's weird cause he uses it, but it's only animated as like three repeating frames. It's weird.

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And he's like using a dry toothbrush with nothing on it. I swipe, what the heck are you doing? Or cause he's in the elite and he's part of the cultural elite. We get Ralph coming to the door, talking about how much he loves Lisa and Lisa kind of says for her, I'm going to make an excuse where I do anything for Elisa. So Homer, what exactly are they doing to the roof? Is he just reroofing?

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I'm just putting a layer of tar down.

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Yeah. And this is one of those little Simpsons lines that I say out of context all the time, which is Mr. Simpson, these tar fumes are making me dizzy.

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Yeah, they'll do that.

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They'll do that. I'll just, I'll say that all the dang time for no reason, because it's important. So the real loser in this episode, this is drama kid.

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Yeah. Like where did he come from?

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Where did he go after.

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Did he just leave the school after his, he is truly in the play. He was pretty upset

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about it. Yeah.

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What was, I forgot to write down his name. What was it?

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Um, it was something like racks or Macs. I feel like it was racks for some reason. Yeah. She's like sit down Rex and he kind of gets snubbed for this part and the president state pageant of

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being the president.

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Yes. And it's weird because even though you're supposed to kind of feel bad for him, I kind of hate him. Yeah. Like he just rubs me the wrong way. I knew some people like that in school that were just so self-important that like

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expected to get the lead role. Yeah.

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Yeah. And, uh, yeah. So instead Ralph gets the role of George Washington and Lisa is Martha Washington. And it's totally because. Chief Wigan put like a boot on her car

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and there's the whole signal out the

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window. Oh my God. So Ralph ends up leaving a Malibu Stacey car with tickets to the crusty show on their doorstep.

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Another from my favorite minds. But there's some good lines in this episode because I say this all the time to look in the trunk.

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Hey, must mean trunk. I called the trunk a tongue all the time. Because of this line.

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I swear, like every couple of times when I go grocery shopping, I go to open my trunk in my head. I just go look in the top. It happens. It happens more than I want to knit.

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Uh, Ralph is really trying to. Every single thing, work in his favor here through his connection to his dad. And I'm curious, I would love to know how much of this is his doing and how much of it is just his dad working on his own to kind of make this happen.

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Kind of elaborate dish plans. I think we going to have to chief Liam had a big role in this.

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Burt says I'm so much more of a crusty fan than you are. I even have the crusty home pregnancy test and the fine on the box may cause birth defects terrible. Oh my God. Uh, I love our Burt says you shouldn't go. It wouldn't be honest. And immediately after says, oh, go disguised as you like, that's more

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honest. And then this whole line of conversation after the words,

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I'm prepared to make that sacrifice. And if he wants to hold your hand over and make that sacrifice, and then the fact that they cut off at the end, like what these kids are eight, what would they say afterwards? Yeah, what the heck? Oh my God. Lisa goes and talks to Homer, which she should know better than to talk to Homer. And she says like, you know, if, if someone gave me something and I feel bad about it, what should I do? And Homer's like, why is that even a problem? Like, he's got like a diploma from Flanders that he's crossing out his name and putting Homer's name and he's. And she says, well, it's my conscience. And he goes, Don't let that push you. Weenie, tell you what to do and homeless now, Homer now. Oh, it's cute. The wig I'm crusty seen let's move on how we got the tickets.

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Why am I forgetting? So just watch this today.

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You blot it out of your mind because he didn't want to think about it.

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Oh, when they're in the theater.

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So this is, this scene is being told by wiggles in the car as he's driving Ralph and Lisa to the crusty show. And she's asking how he got the tickets and he, he recounts the scene how, like he was in a theater with Krusty the clown. And like, afterwards Lisa's like, Mr. Wingham that wasn't appropriate to tell the children, which

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is kind of like a hole, but we just broadcasted it on national television with children watching. Oh my God. At least in this version, I wore pants.

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Well, it's also funny too. Cause at first you kind of think that it's being the scenes being replayed just in Wickham's head and it's not until Lisa says that you realize he's actually telling this to the children, which is terrible. Ah, So, uh, they finally get to the crusty show and, um, he shows like some clips of all the episodes and we get the Robert Frost thing, which I just love, we discussed this and I said, no,

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how about some snow man?

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Just doing these terrible, stupid jokes to like this famous poet.

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Anytime we see the Krusty, the clown. Any amount of distance in the past, it's either in like a talk show version or it's like an odd music thing. It's never like it is present day. It's like

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some, somewhere along the way, he just took a completely different turn in what kind of show he was going to make. Also how old is crust? Even when this first aired, he would have had to been pretty old and he just doesn't age. Cause he's like an adult in the sixties and this took place in the nineties, which would mean he'd be born in like the forties. I don't

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know. That's there's some weird time distortion distortions going on in Springfield.

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There's a time space distortion. I've been playing a lot of Pokemon. Um, We get the ice cream stains,

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which sucks because nothing gets

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chocolate, nothing it's chocolate out. I remember for some reason I really liked that scene as a kid. Cause I was dropped things when I was a kid and I was like, look, they do shit too.

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Adults make messes all the time for kids to

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chiefly gum. Great.

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A nice role model.

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Oh yeah. Okay. This made me a little suspicious when he does the talk to the audience, he immediately goes to Lisa and

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Ralph William could have been working as magic still.

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Yeah. I was wondering if he kind of set him up to do. Uh, and then we get that famous scene with, uh, where she kind of breaks his heart, where he says, this is Lisa. When I grew up, I'm going to marry her. And that's like her breaking point right there.

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Yeah. It's, you'll see Lisa flip out too often, but when she does it's big and yeah. I was, I was like how they did this scene. Like the transition of us watching it happening to it, being a replay on a tape. Like I thought that was always really creative. That's awesome.

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I'm editing right there. Just, it's just, you know, forming your scene around them, watching the scene. It's

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it's a whole thing. Like as you slowly pan out, it morphs into a television view. I love it. Is there a word.

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Panning out and having it morphed into a television video. It's very to know it's very snappy, um, that, oh my gosh. The, the scene after this. Not as memorable, but I always thought this was one of the funniest scenes in the entire episode when, when Ralph's really sad and he's throwing bread to the ducks and chief Wickham goes up to him and it's like, eh, I know exactly how you feel. You got a girlfriend that you love and you're on top of the world. And just the series from this to the next part, when he says, no, she humiliated me. He's like, oh yeah. Well, she's going to learn what it's like to, you know, to God. I can't remember the exact words. Oh, the awesome power of the chief of police. And he's like, no, where is my bag? And there's just the, the duck is walking with his badge and he's just barely waddling behind him. There Wattles

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are synchronized. Yes. Perfect.

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Perfect. I love it. It's beautiful.

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It's wiggle it's Wigan, baby.

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Um, so we actually goes to the extent that he pulls over Homer, which is kind of messed up. Like

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yeah, like damaging his car with the tail light out

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and homework gives a line. One of these days, someone's going to stand up to you crooked cops. Oh no. Have they set a date?

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He's just genuinely

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concerned. Like he thinks this is something specifically happening at this moment. Ah, and we have the orange, the orange, it's not orange juice. It's orange,

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drink, orange drink and love that. Like, and they're selling it for 50 cents a glass and it's like how to recoup losses. It's just, it makes me sad for the economics

Sari: 33:54

of schools. Yes. And he keeps trying to get Willie to water it down. I can't water her down any further. Uh, which itself has kind of. Uh, sorry, check reference. Cause it's

Shaun: 34:07

almost like thought that I was wondering if that's what they're going

Sari: 34:10

for. Yeah. Then they sit down and they prepare themselves for a wonderful evening of entertainment and cleaning up after yourself.

Shaun: 34:24

Skinner is always awkward. When he's speaking in front of the parents,

Sari: 34:28

you just always awkward episode one. Yup. That's true. A medley of holiday flavor. It's ah, I I'll always remember poor William Henry Harrison because of this song. He, he died in 30 days.

Shaun: 34:49

It's a good job with that song.

Sari: 34:50

They really did. Like it's catchy, it throws a lot of things into a small amount of time and someone had fun researching it. Yeah. You can tell. I'll always love mill houses, Lincoln and Bart is John Wilkes booth. I sort of fight. They get into

Shaun: 35:08

it just the way that Millhouse it opens the filing civil wars over now to suit my head. What's the theater. He points to his death.

Sari: 35:23

Oh, it's great. And Bart's got this whole like Terminator facade with the sunglasses. And then

Shaun: 35:29

when he gets picked up, I love this line and his tone unhand me Yankee.

Sari: 35:35

It's a very old school Simpson sort of delivery of that

Shaun: 35:38

line. Yeah. Yeah. He sees him like, sometimes Bart feels like he's older, but that's just like a childish Hanmi. Yeah.

Sari: 35:50

Oh, and we've got Homer in the, in the audience while they're fighting. Come on, boy. Finish them off. And everyone else is just kind of shocked at what's happening here. Like can you imagine being at a children's play and just two kids just start fist fighting, just John Wilkes booth and Abraham Lincoln, like 10 years old fist fighting.

Shaun: 36:17

I mean, I wouldn't expect anything more from the state that Springfield's

Sari: 36:20

in. Did. That is true. That is true. Uh, I kind of loved the twist that Ralph is actually amazing at this.

Shaun: 36:30

Oh yeah. I wrote down just good acting from Lisa to Ralph. Ralph does like something about like his emotions kicked in. I like the way he stood over that fire. And he just this clear with the speech and to the point and never, he just does a good job.

Sari: 36:49

And yet at the same time, he didn't realize which president and he was going to be earlier on. When he like tried to sit in the wheelchair and everything,

Shaun: 36:56

at least it goes. He's got like the, the eyeglasses,

Sari: 37:03

oh my God. It's it kind of shows too. Like he had to go through some change to sort of get to that point. And he also needed, he needed people to give him a chance. Like he needed Lisa to give him a chance and he needed Ms. Hoover to give him a chance, because if he wouldn't have gotten that role, he wouldn't have realized that he was able to do that. Um, Yeah, it's pretty

Shaun: 37:31

cool. I wish they, I mean, it would have been hard, but it would've been nice to explore a bit more of like, kind of the flip side of Ralph that he's this kind of kid that's having trouble getting through life, having a rough time. But this one thing of like, acting like it would have been cool if every once in a while there's an acting thing. And when it comes up, it's like not bring it up, but you know, like on star Trek, like Brent Spiner when he gets. Go from a monotone character to play in emotion or doing something where he plays all the emotions, like give Ralph a chance to explore that other side of him to that light switch flips he's in the play. And then as soon as the scene's done, he flips back to being Ralph.

Sari: 38:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be cool. And like the future episodes, they just kind of show him as a loser. They don't really show anything intricate, any growth really. Uh, also there's fire on the stage. Yeah. That seems like a bad idea. And like a closed off auditorium, full of tons of people exits way down, man, at this school auditorium doesn't have enough fire exits. Also there's a kid in the front row, but it's missing her nose. So animation. I love the obnoxious ending of this play. Like it's really kind of quiet and subdued and very, you know, drama driven. And then suddenly they get pulled upward cost and it always kills me when the Mount Rushmore starts talking like sea to shining sea.

Shaun: 39:20

Let's see more recorded it four times.

Sari: 39:24

Thanks for coming. We share to get some orange drink

Shaun: 39:28

for the long ride home and the lips don't even match. You can

Sari: 39:33

kind of hear a little squeaky digress and

Shaun: 39:35

it keeps going after he's done talking.

Sari: 39:39

It kills me every time. Uh, I love how the end is all about Ralph kind of finding how to find his own. He had to find out how to get his own worst out of himself and that. He's been struggling, but now he's kind of found something that he's good at. He's got like all these people, like signing his autographs or asking for his autographs and he accepts Lisa asking them to just be

Shaun: 40:08

friends. I kind of see it too, as. This whole episode, they're kind of exploring, reaching a whole new level of like growing up and being more mature. And then at the end, they're just back to being kids. It's like, they both weren't ready for that level of maturity. So they just went back to how

Sari: 40:24

things were, I love this shot, this frame, not the frame, but this shot the way it's framed, where you see chief wig I'm in his car and the kids are on the swing and they go into the frame and just the way they kill. And the way, like their hair kind of bounces up. It's so carefree and childish and like what they're supposed to be right now

Shaun: 40:47

that we've just got this cute

Sari: 40:48

music in the background. Oh yeah. This very suitable president's day music of monster mash and, and that's it. The DJ just like, dang it. Dang it. I, this one makes, gives me the warm and fuzzies. It's a good one. Yeah, it's a great one. Yeah. It's probably in my top 25 somewhere. It's one

Shaun: 41:13

of those that it carries the

Sari: 41:14

show. It really does. Um, are we ready for the fun facts sponsored by Cinco fax machine?

Shaun: 41:24

If people don't know what we're talking about, you're probably confused and look

Sari: 41:27

up the Cinco fax machine because it's necessary and wonderful. Uh, so showrunner Al Jean came up the idea with the idea of remembering a card that he got in third grade that actually said, I choose you, choose you. Wow. There's an actual card that he got. Was there a

Shaun: 41:46

picture of a train?

Sari: 41:48

Was it didn't mention that on. Also, this is the episode that establishes Ralph as chief son really before there was only one other time that they kind of hinted at it, which was in camp crusty when they said his name was Ralph Wigan, but they never specifically stated that his dad was chief Wigan. They just said that that was his last name. And we, you know, you could infer that maybe he was related somehow, but this one specifically says that that's his. Um, the first Simpsons episode, two sensor profanity, which was sideshow Mel, when he was on the WowWee sauce. I

Shaun: 42:25

love that. Well, the sauce and just

Sari: 42:27

seeing him, cause he's always, so like kind of posh and Shakespearean and he's just cursing at crusty. This was also the first appearance appearance of bill and Hillary Clinton, but not the last, but not the less. I made the, you can't see that far, but I made that stupid expression that makes it the end of that one episode push episode. I don't

Shaun: 42:54

know. It's just like the stupid smile and he bites his lip.

Sari: 43:01

Oh my God. I'm glad Frankie's not here to make her cut numbers. And it's, it's terrible because it's so good. But yeah, that's. That's I love Lisa. Oh, the other thing that I didn't even know, like, I felt stupid for not realizing this. I love Lisa is a play on, I love Lucy. Yeah. Cause it seems a little search with L and nobody says, well, I guess he kind of does says I love Lisa Simpson at some point, but I mean, they were going somewhere with it. Yeah. Yeah.

Shaun: 43:37

Yeah. I'd like this episode a lot.

Sari: 43:40

I do too. And we didn't do a Valentine's day episode last year. I don't think, I don't think so. No, we didn't. No, we didn't because I mean, we started doing this. We've got like the way we was and, um,

Shaun: 43:55

we can't hit all the holidays every year.

Sari: 43:58

All others. Yeah. We're not going to have a St Patrick's day episode, cause we already did that one. Episode.

Shaun: 44:08

Yeah, yeah. Of it. Yes.

Sari: 44:10

I need to look up what our next episode is. Oh, and we also need to give a shout out to Timothy Burl, Sen Timmy, who is our patron Saint, our only patron. And if you wish to see our Patrion, we're at patrion.com/ Simpson slash. Simpsons S I B S and you can get cool stuff. We'll say your name on the air. You'll get like Simpsons paintings, which I'm like about to send him at the end. Simpson's painting that I made for him will spoil you basically will bring you go well, where are you? Gold.

Shaun: 44:48

Good job. I used to

Sari: 44:49

do that a lot as a kid. I would just randomly say that because that's such a great episode with, you know, the horses. Um, all right. So our next episode tune in, as we cover season one, episode four, there's no disgrace like home fun story behind this one. I wanted to do one of those random number generated episodes. Last time we got like break my wife, please, which is like some random season 15 or something. And I was expecting something near the middle. Something that maybe we don't watch. So I put in a number generator, it was like one through 700 something of how many episodes of Simpsons exists. I got four.

Shaun: 45:30

That's like a one in 700 something chance of getting that

Sari: 45:32

number. It was cause I was like, okay, I'm going to get some weird middle of the road number. I got four. So this is technically a random number generated episode, but it did its job. Cause I wouldn't have thought to pick that one random. It was there we go. So, uh, watch the episode before you listen to get the full experience and. Until then happy Valentine's day, everybody.